tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8791723.post109961007358235832..comments2023-09-22T11:01:30.370-07:00Comments on Val the C# Gal: Visual Designers?Valerie Vogthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14342788492213089415noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8791723.post-1099676216299708312004-11-05T09:36:00.000-08:002004-11-05T09:36:00.000-08:00The problem I have with VD... erm... Visual Design...The problem I have with VD... erm... Visual Designers... is that it lowers the bar for quality so that the average Joe can make an application. While this can be a really good thing since I think everyone should be able to make the computer work for them, not against them... it's also a bad thing because it means the quality of software (on the whole) goes down. I think if the designers enforced proper UI behavior, then it wouldn't be so bad. But that concept doesn't work in practice... <br /><br />So I'm stuck with a weird love/hate relationship. I love that people like my mom can make software herself with tool like Visual and REAL basic. But then again, I see so many shudderingly disgusting UIs come out of this easy-to-code paradigm...<br /><br />I think it boils down to the fact that there are good programmers and bad programmers. No amount of help from a tool will make bad programmers into good ones. So use a RAD tool if you want to since it lets you focus on the more important things. And if you don't like RAD tools, then don't bother!<br /><br />~Aaron [<A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Framblings.aaronballman.com">http://ramblings.aaronballman.com</A>]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8791723.post-1099625434311870702004-11-04T19:30:00.000-08:002004-11-04T19:30:00.000-08:00I agree with JavaKid.. but I take a slightly less ...I agree with JavaKid.. but I take a slightly less purist/elistest view to visual designers.<br /><br />Am I upset that people with no degree or formal education in computer science are above me (even though they are just at the same experience level)... yes.. do I think that core programming skills are NOT learned in ANY fashion from Visual Designers... yes ... Can they be productive? ... yes ... do we all still make money... yes ... do people rely on them too much... yes .... EVEN one of my coworkers bawks at the fact that I don't use intellisense as often as I should. and I bet I can code just as efficiently as anyone who uses it.<br /><br />Am I cocky... yes ...<br /><br />Jake<br /><A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/r?http%3A%2F%2Fwww.whoisjake.com%2Fblog">from whoISjake.com fame</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com